immm
07-18 06:13 PM
Now we can take the thread back to the original issue Order Of I-485 Processing.
Back to the original thread
With this July VB fiasco, thousands of people with the recent priority dates will be able to apply alongside the applicants with much older priority dates and depending on how the USCIS issues the receipt notices or how fast their lawyers can file, some with older priority dates will fall behind in terms of receiving the receipt dates.
Note: Even a few days' difference in receipt dates could matter due to the quota when thousands apply in the same month
So the question on the table is:
How would USCIS process the cases now that many recent priority date filers were able to beat (sarcasm:thanks to DOS and USCIS!) the older priority date filers in getting the receipt notices?
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Back to the original thread
With this July VB fiasco, thousands of people with the recent priority dates will be able to apply alongside the applicants with much older priority dates and depending on how the USCIS issues the receipt notices or how fast their lawyers can file, some with older priority dates will fall behind in terms of receiving the receipt dates.
Note: Even a few days' difference in receipt dates could matter due to the quota when thousands apply in the same month
So the question on the table is:
How would USCIS process the cases now that many recent priority date filers were able to beat (sarcasm:thanks to DOS and USCIS!) the older priority date filers in getting the receipt notices?
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mgmanoj
09-01 09:20 AM
Landed in January' 2000
1st Labor Filed in Sept'2001
State approved and project over so had to to move over
2nd Labor filed in Jan'2003 with Company B
Attorney screwed it
3rd Labor filed in Jun'2007
Missed July 2007 fiasco
New date EB3 - Jun'2007
1st Labor Filed in Sept'2001
State approved and project over so had to to move over
2nd Labor filed in Jan'2003 with Company B
Attorney screwed it
3rd Labor filed in Jun'2007
Missed July 2007 fiasco
New date EB3 - Jun'2007
sandiboy
07-18 04:03 PM
Assuming that the PD cut off date for a specific stream is 2004 Aug and there are still visa nos available but there are not enough application (can this ever happen for real) what are they going to do? They move the PD further up and whenever the pool is depleting they move it back again?
Assuming they move back the PD to 2000 after they ran out of the nos they start accepting AOS apps for that PD but they donot look at them (for adjudication) until the queue before is cleared based on the receipt date.
In such a case the PD lost all it's significance once the adjustment of status if filed?
If receipt date is the only significant date after AOS is filed then retrogressing to a specified date does not make sense as there is no need to accept new applications if they are not going to work on them and particularly when they know the current size of the queue.
Or May be I am missing something......
Consider I-485 Processing as a 2 Door Room. Front Door is for people who's PD has been current for the given month and can apply & Back Door is for Adjudicating People who are already applied & still current for that month.
The size of the room depends on what date they retrogress it to. If Cutoff date is say 2002, there are few people in that room who would be ready for adjudication. Instead if cutoff date is say 2006, there will be a huge number of people in the room.
As long as you stay in that room for more month (be current), the more chance you have of getting adjudicated fast, but also depends on how many people are ahead of you per RD.
Assuming they move back the PD to 2000 after they ran out of the nos they start accepting AOS apps for that PD but they donot look at them (for adjudication) until the queue before is cleared based on the receipt date.
In such a case the PD lost all it's significance once the adjustment of status if filed?
If receipt date is the only significant date after AOS is filed then retrogressing to a specified date does not make sense as there is no need to accept new applications if they are not going to work on them and particularly when they know the current size of the queue.
Or May be I am missing something......
Consider I-485 Processing as a 2 Door Room. Front Door is for people who's PD has been current for the given month and can apply & Back Door is for Adjudicating People who are already applied & still current for that month.
The size of the room depends on what date they retrogress it to. If Cutoff date is say 2002, there are few people in that room who would be ready for adjudication. Instead if cutoff date is say 2006, there will be a huge number of people in the room.
As long as you stay in that room for more month (be current), the more chance you have of getting adjudicated fast, but also depends on how many people are ahead of you per RD.
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diptam
08-02 04:00 PM
Whenever i read your Post i feel Good - The Rep that i spoke to USCIS told me that July 2nd filers has minimum wait till Aug 15th :D
By the way there is a Prediction for OCT Bulletin in Market >>
EB3 India retrogressed to MAY 2001 and so on , so forth - Enjoy...
http://www.bibdaily.com/pdfs/Jan%20P...n%208-2-07.pdf
I had an email conversation with my lawyer regarding 180 day portability. She said that the count for 180 days should begin with notice date for safe side.
However the count begins with Receipt Date which is a day or 2 off from the actual application receive date (mail received date).
This is what i got from my lawyer.
By the way there is a Prediction for OCT Bulletin in Market >>
EB3 India retrogressed to MAY 2001 and so on , so forth - Enjoy...
http://www.bibdaily.com/pdfs/Jan%20P...n%208-2-07.pdf
I had an email conversation with my lawyer regarding 180 day portability. She said that the count for 180 days should begin with notice date for safe side.
However the count begins with Receipt Date which is a day or 2 off from the actual application receive date (mail received date).
This is what i got from my lawyer.
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jonty_11
07-23 03:30 PM
one of those who got labor approved fast from BEC...and slipped thru quickly....yes, I mean quickly even though it took 2.5 years
Kodi
06-22 10:41 AM
Nothing so far. I keep checking the status of my application every day but its still "In Process"
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indio0617
03-09 10:39 AM
Sure...
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Sakthisagar
08-23 03:24 PM
USCIS should clear the backlogs first, to some extent, because people are stuck here in USA on H1B even after 10 years.. Otherwise they should find a way to pre-register to EAD and GC without all this gimmick approvals of AOS etc.
But this is only in our thoughts, just making memos and making the life of Legal immigrants a mess is the current strategy of the immigratin leadership, this is being done by the anti-immigrant community.
If they are not clearing the backlog, Suffering will be more for all of us who will eternally wait in the Q.
But this is only in our thoughts, just making memos and making the life of Legal immigrants a mess is the current strategy of the immigratin leadership, this is being done by the anti-immigrant community.
If they are not clearing the backlog, Suffering will be more for all of us who will eternally wait in the Q.
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Edison99
02-03 02:55 PM
Congrats and good luck with your GC process !
9years: So finally did you have to send the interfiling request, or they approved it automatically.
- My EB2 140 got approved 2 weeks ago (with July 03 PD), but still no LUD on my 485.
- I placed a Service Request last week on my pending 485, which resulted in a soft LUD on my EB2 140 but nothing on 485.
I just wanted to know if you also had to send the interfiling request just like VayuMahesh.
Thanks,
9years: So finally did you have to send the interfiling request, or they approved it automatically.
- My EB2 140 got approved 2 weeks ago (with July 03 PD), but still no LUD on my 485.
- I placed a Service Request last week on my pending 485, which resulted in a soft LUD on my EB2 140 but nothing on 485.
I just wanted to know if you also had to send the interfiling request just like VayuMahesh.
Thanks,
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songlan
04-25 09:16 AM
Pushing too much requests into amendends means to get more risks to be removed /denied. Please satisfiy with 1/2 what you are dreaming of. Moreover, IV core group is too much busy with the existing goals (Existing goal = file 485 despite the "current date" , h4 wifes get EAD ...). IV core group need energy for the more realistic goal.
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pkjena
07-06 02:00 PM
Here are some of the stats from Mathew Oh's website:
According to the State Department, from October 1, 2006 through May 30, 2007, the USCIS requested and was authorized the total EB visa numbers of 66,426. Between June 1 and the first few days of July (?), the USCIS requested and was authorized over 60,000 EB visa numbers, in approximately one month. Since it has been made clear by the USCIS that during the last weekend of June 30 and July 1 (2 days) the USCIS approved 25,000 EB 485 applications, apparently over 40,000 visa numbers were requested and authorized before the weekend in a period of less than one month. Obviously the 60,000 plus cases must thus have been approved (?) in one month. Unconformed sources indicate that they processed and approved (?) a substantial number of applications on Sunday, July 1, exhausting the EB numbers by July 1 and making the EB number unavailable not from July 1 but from July 2, 2007. It is interesting that even before the legal team initiates any discovery, the truth starts coming out of the cabinet a bit by bit.
I have a question:
Total VISA available for the year = 140,000
USICS approved till May 31 = 66,426
USICS approved Jun 1- Jun 29 = 40,000
USICS approved Jun 30 - July 1 = 25,000
So VISAs still available 140,000 - 66,426 - 40,000 - 25,000 = 8574
So why are they Unavailable on 2nd Jjuly 2007?
According to the State Department, from October 1, 2006 through May 30, 2007, the USCIS requested and was authorized the total EB visa numbers of 66,426. Between June 1 and the first few days of July (?), the USCIS requested and was authorized over 60,000 EB visa numbers, in approximately one month. Since it has been made clear by the USCIS that during the last weekend of June 30 and July 1 (2 days) the USCIS approved 25,000 EB 485 applications, apparently over 40,000 visa numbers were requested and authorized before the weekend in a period of less than one month. Obviously the 60,000 plus cases must thus have been approved (?) in one month. Unconformed sources indicate that they processed and approved (?) a substantial number of applications on Sunday, July 1, exhausting the EB numbers by July 1 and making the EB number unavailable not from July 1 but from July 2, 2007. It is interesting that even before the legal team initiates any discovery, the truth starts coming out of the cabinet a bit by bit.
I have a question:
Total VISA available for the year = 140,000
USICS approved till May 31 = 66,426
USICS approved Jun 1- Jun 29 = 40,000
USICS approved Jun 30 - July 1 = 25,000
So VISAs still available 140,000 - 66,426 - 40,000 - 25,000 = 8574
So why are they Unavailable on 2nd Jjuly 2007?
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razis123
07-11 09:17 AM
Pause and take a moment to rejoice. Then turn all eyes to processing dates.
TSC July 17 2007
NSC July 28 2007
My online status shows
"On August 17, 2007, we received this I485 APPLICATION TO REGISTER PERMANENT RESIDENCE OR TO ADJUST STATUS..........................."
My recepit date was however July 2nd 2007. Are they processing my application or they go by received date of 8/17?
can someone explain how this works?
TSC July 17 2007
NSC July 28 2007
My online status shows
"On August 17, 2007, we received this I485 APPLICATION TO REGISTER PERMANENT RESIDENCE OR TO ADJUST STATUS..........................."
My recepit date was however July 2nd 2007. Are they processing my application or they go by received date of 8/17?
can someone explain how this works?
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eager_immi
11-21 10:01 AM
Mr. Carbon,
Can you please e-mail this to Lou Dobbs of CNN.
-Kaka
Lou Dobbs are you kidding me!!! By now all should know he is not a journalist he is a propagandist. He does not read to expand his horizon he uses a cookie cutter approach to fit everything in his grand scheme of propaganda "the plight of the middle class." So please don't waste time and channel your energy elsewhere.
Can you please e-mail this to Lou Dobbs of CNN.
-Kaka
Lou Dobbs are you kidding me!!! By now all should know he is not a journalist he is a propagandist. He does not read to expand his horizon he uses a cookie cutter approach to fit everything in his grand scheme of propaganda "the plight of the middle class." So please don't waste time and channel your energy elsewhere.
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ImmiLosers
07-23 06:41 PM
Guys, We just got the magic e-mail.!!
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PD AUG 2004
RD DEC 2004
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thx everyone for your help and suppport!!
What is RD?
Card Production ordered
PD AUG 2004
RD DEC 2004
EB3 INDIA :) :) :)
thx everyone for your help and suppport!!
What is RD?
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05-30 09:56 PM
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needhelp!
09-13 02:57 PM
Anyone can do this!
The AILA media link is great, easy to do. Just type in your zip code and you will get a list of all news papers/radio stations/TV stations in your area.
Just personalize the email and submit submit submit
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Just personalize the email and submit submit submit
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07-06 08:20 AM
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hazishak
07-18 07:22 PM
what happens when dates retrogress? If my PD is 2000 Jan (assume) and some one else has 2001 Jan (assume) with RDs July/2007 and Mar/2007 respectively and in August 2007 PD cut off date went back to 2000 Feb (assume) then does it mean that 2000 Jan PD is ineligible to get the adjudication before the guy with PD 2001 Jan because the RD is later for this case? Again if the answer to this question is yes then ,when the PD is set at 2000 Feb why are they accepting new AOS apps which satisfy this PD cutoff date because if they process by RD(at all times) they are not likely to consider these for adjudication anyway? Is it just for our benifit that we can get an EAD? If I go down this path I donot understand the purpose of the whole PD in this process.
The thing I am trying to understand is 'if PD is not significant in AOS why is it there at all in the visa bulletin'. If RD overrides the PD at the AOS stage then instead of specifying a PD in the Visa bulletin they can just say that
"We are accepting new AOS applications" and then adjudicate them in the order of the RD.
These are all just my thoughts and am trying to put them together. I may very well be wrong in my basic understanding of this process. Thank you for your previous reply. That was helpful.
In your case you will get the percedence over the 2000 PD. His is PD is not curent at time of processing. If the cut off date is after 2001 which means both are cuurent then the later guy will take precedence since his RD is earlier than your's.
The thing I am trying to understand is 'if PD is not significant in AOS why is it there at all in the visa bulletin'. If RD overrides the PD at the AOS stage then instead of specifying a PD in the Visa bulletin they can just say that
"We are accepting new AOS applications" and then adjudicate them in the order of the RD.
These are all just my thoughts and am trying to put them together. I may very well be wrong in my basic understanding of this process. Thank you for your previous reply. That was helpful.
In your case you will get the percedence over the 2000 PD. His is PD is not curent at time of processing. If the cut off date is after 2001 which means both are cuurent then the later guy will take precedence since his RD is earlier than your's.
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mirage
08-18 08:15 AM
Yesterday I filled up the appointment form of my local congressman. I will try if I can meet him and he could probably write to the public officials or could talk to rep. Zo Lofgren. In my opinion if we can somehow inform Rep. Lofgren, she will certainly do something. She seems really(genuinely) concerned for the plight of Green Card seekers...
I would request everybody to find out ways and channels to get this information to her....
grupak/mirage/pani6
i support your efforts and have printed out and sent letters to the people mentioned. Momentum for release of information should build up even if we have 50-100 letters from affected people...otherwise people won't know of EB-3 IND's plight.
I suppose we should followup with phone calls in 15 days to cement our request. We should have a poll on who all has sent the letter and made the call.
I would request everybody to find out ways and channels to get this information to her....
grupak/mirage/pani6
i support your efforts and have printed out and sent letters to the people mentioned. Momentum for release of information should build up even if we have 50-100 letters from affected people...otherwise people won't know of EB-3 IND's plight.
I suppose we should followup with phone calls in 15 days to cement our request. We should have a poll on who all has sent the letter and made the call.
kumar1305
02-24 04:12 PM
Interesting discussion...
My point - I am going to take things in a stride, basically wait till I can - doesn't hurt me as long as I go about my daily routine.
All who are thinking of jumping the fence and giving up, one piece of advice - if you do not have kids and plan to have any in this life, please do it NOW - have them be born here (all of them) and then move on with whatever / wherever you want to go.
At least this is a gift you will be giving your kids for their lifetime and all the generations following them (remember - a US citizen's kid can be a US citizen no matter where he/she is born) - so you will be arranging US citizenship for all your great^n * grand * kids (0 <= n <= infinity) !
This is how I think about it when I do not think about MYSELF. Once the kids are born, you can flaunt their American Passports and feel happy in their well-being and security (for whatever it is worth) and move on to Canada / India / Singapore / wherever! Live happily.
And do not forget your kids can sponsor you when they are 21.
My point - I am going to take things in a stride, basically wait till I can - doesn't hurt me as long as I go about my daily routine.
All who are thinking of jumping the fence and giving up, one piece of advice - if you do not have kids and plan to have any in this life, please do it NOW - have them be born here (all of them) and then move on with whatever / wherever you want to go.
At least this is a gift you will be giving your kids for their lifetime and all the generations following them (remember - a US citizen's kid can be a US citizen no matter where he/she is born) - so you will be arranging US citizenship for all your great^n * grand * kids (0 <= n <= infinity) !
This is how I think about it when I do not think about MYSELF. Once the kids are born, you can flaunt their American Passports and feel happy in their well-being and security (for whatever it is worth) and move on to Canada / India / Singapore / wherever! Live happily.
And do not forget your kids can sponsor you when they are 21.
Keeme
03-06 07:23 PM
Could you explain this point. Why would lesser number of FB visas be issued in a bad economy ?
Does economy state has any relation to FB visas ?
For pre-adjudication, visa availability or the chances of PD becoming current is not necessary. They can pre-adjudicate based on receipt date.
My guess:
Probably they are processing all employment based applications right away so that they can prepare for CIR 2009. I guess Obama will take CIR this year itself as he has a very high approval rating and lot of goodwill now.
Number of immigrants allowed each year since 1900s. You would see big drop at/after every recessions/depression. Reports says there is already big drop in illegel migration at Mexico border. Govt offiials of any country would do anything and everything they can to control unemployment figures.
Does economy state has any relation to FB visas ?
For pre-adjudication, visa availability or the chances of PD becoming current is not necessary. They can pre-adjudicate based on receipt date.
My guess:
Probably they are processing all employment based applications right away so that they can prepare for CIR 2009. I guess Obama will take CIR this year itself as he has a very high approval rating and lot of goodwill now.
Number of immigrants allowed each year since 1900s. You would see big drop at/after every recessions/depression. Reports says there is already big drop in illegel migration at Mexico border. Govt offiials of any country would do anything and everything they can to control unemployment figures.
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